A few short weeks ago, Coin Fire spoke to officials at Amazon and other retailers about the implementation of PayCoin as a shopping option. We established with the retailers that none of them had any plans to integrate the cryptocurrency directly despite the repeated claims of Josh Garza and users on the HashTalk forums.
Late last night after a series of delays and technical issues, the Paybase website–a product of Garza and GAW Miners–launched to much fanfare with Josh Garza making bold claims to CryptoCoinsNews once again about implementation of Amazon and Paycoin:
Tonight you will see the first merchant integration with Amazon search and shopping within PayBase. You will be able to purchase directly from within the platform. This feature is the first of its kind.
Mr. Garza also repeatedly stated on the Hashtalk forums that they were working with the Amazon API to carry out the purchasing feature. While this is not a direct integration with the merchants as originally claimed, it does shed some light on the issue and prompted Coin Fire to speak with Amazon spokespeople further about Paybase, Paycoin, and GAW Miners.
An Amazon spokesperson once again denied any involvement with Paycoin, Paybase, GAW Miners, or Josh Garza telling the Coin Fire team,
Per our earlier statement Amazon continues to standby our first assertion that we are in no way connected, partnered, or associated with Josh Garza, GAW Miners, Genius at Work, Paycoin, Paybase or any company connected with this operation.
Amazon does run an Amazon Associates program that allows associate members to earn commissions on sales generated via our API and developer tools.
We will work aggressively to disable API calls from those attempting to avoid our account systems, those fulfilling orders that appear to come from Amazon, or those violating the Amazon Associates Program Operating Agreement.
After speaking extensively with Amazon and showing them various URLs of promises made by Garza and company, they went into further details on the exact sections of the agreement that they believed from a first glance were being violated:
- […] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.
- […] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site […]
- […] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.
- […] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.
- […] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.
The Amazon spokespeople further elaborated,
Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly.
It further appears that Amazon is once again distancing itself of any relationship with Paycoin.
Coin Fire has reached out to other merchants listed on the PayBase website and will bring further details regarding statements from other merchants we have obtained in the near future.
First of all, this amazon spokesperson is who? What is his/her name?
Do you have any screenshot? Any citation?
Fake journalism? FRAUD news site?
Sorry but no thank you!
Security is still a issue. Previous mention of IP address was fixed by GAW, but tracing their paybase server back is relatively easy.. This bypasses cloudflare WAF
They Hate Us cause they Ain’t us.
If the journalism was so good here, then how come the “amazon person” wasn’t named
Seriously people, there are zero facts here
Journalist aren’t required to name anonymous sources. You have no idea what good journalism is. Your logic has been corrupted by greed.
Did you ever look at the source code? Are you comfortable with the fact that the developers hardcoded higher rewards for specific private keys they hold. They get much higher rewards than the average user. This is the only fundamental change that was made. This is clearly a scam.
I’m as anti-GAW as they come. However I simply do not believe that Mike actually contacted someone at Amazon. Companies like Amazon authorize very few people to speak on company matters such as these. Your average CS agent or employee isn’t allowed to or they get terminated immediately. Mike has explicitly used the term “spokespeople”. Talking on behalf of the company is literally their job. Therefore naming the person in question is not an issue. So simply name them and be done with it.
No, I think what has happened here is that Mike just wrote the story knowing full well it could never be disputed. GAW will collapse in the next few weeks and this piece will be hailed as another triumph in investigative journalism. But it is easy to take that gamble when you know the person you are covering is a scam and can’t possibly pull off anything they claim they are going to do. It is like planting evidence against someone that is obviously guilty and calling it justice. And until the source is named it is indistinguishable from that.
I hope it’s not a scam, but either way I made 10x the money during that quick launch than I ever would have on btc.. and sold 90% of my paycoins during the boom anyway.. so whatever.. I’m happy! 🙂
Awesome work coinfire Thumbs up!